[The tone is really not helping, and Kinjou rubs his hand over his face, wishing he could stand so he could get himself a glass of water but he'd rather just. Stay there for the time being.]
No, it's fine, I just wasn't expecting to speak to you about. That. [He barely managed to tell Toudou about it and honestly he hadn't even given him any details. Kinjou hadn't technically even told him, since Toudou had stopped the conversation they'd had upon meeting from getting very far.]
But yes, Makishima and I have been intimate. For the reason you have expressed. [Makishima essentially promised his virginity to him, and Kinjou the same. But Arakita probably doesn't need to know that sort of detail.]
It was literally just an assumption, promise. It's a good reason, I mean, who wants their friends to have to go screw strangers when they can just take one for the team, in a way. [His laughter toned down at least as he spoke, scratching below his nose as he thinks about it for a half minute.]
Really good reason ... Fuck, I'm going to have to talk to Toudou about that sort of thing too, huh. He's got "standards" but at least a familiar face would be .. best. Right? Not in Arakita's case, but normal people preferred someone they knew well.]
[...this might not be a good time to mention that he's slept with other people already. Yeah, not going to mention that (for the time being). Kinjou's surprised at how understanding Arakita is being. Though there's a bit of a jitteriness to his voice. He's definitely not used to the thought, and it sure sounds like he might have some trouble embracing the possibility of sleeping with Toudou if it ever comes to that.
He's not sure if he can blame him or not.]
That's a decision that you'll have to make on your own. I don't know Toudou as well as you do, obviously, but I think it would at least be a good idea to let him know that if a sexual situation ever arises that you'll both be able to make a decision without worrying too much over the repercussions. [Like how he's currently not quite sure what having sex with Makishima means for their friendship/relationship. Kinjou's not very knowledgeable of the term "fuck-buddy".]
It isn't solely about familiarity. Sex is a very personal matter and can make you feel vulnerable. There is no reason to feel that way with someone you trust.
[To be fair, Arakita's already been manhandled by a figurative "stranger" by now too, so he wouldn't really judge anything about what Kinjou's done.]
Right, yeah. Set ground rules or shit, like no kissing or. Whatever would irritate him later. [Friends with benefits isn't a strange thought to him, it's just Toudou. Grumbling a little under his breath without actually saying anything, Arakita knows it's just something to talk about, like Kinjou said. Ughhh..]
I don't know, sex with people I don't know sounds easier honestly. I don't have to think about fucking up a relationship if there isn't one in the first place, you know?
[That is his honest opinion, regardless of whether Arakita is talking solely about Toudou. Now the rest, while he completely understands, doesn't quite sit well with him.]
Your explanation makes sense, but isn't it a bit sad to sleep with people you have no connection to? It makes the act feel empty... that's just my own opinion though. [No shit, Kinjou.]
I would feel more comfortable at least knowing someone so they don't feel as if I am only using them just to... get off? [Is that how they say it?] Usually that sort of act is reserved for masturbation.
Kissing's probably nice, but I don't want to kiss cause that's supposed to be for feelings and shit. If I'm screwing around without developing feelings for them, it's better that way so no ones actually getting hurt, right?
[Whether Kinjou agrees or disagrees isn't really Arakita's concern, but explaining it feels necessary; and whether it's about Toudou or not still applies. As far as he's thinking, it is just mutual masturbation - why get feelings if someone else is using him just for that too?]
Shit getting tangled like that just doesn't appeal to me. I don't want relationships with it if I'm going to end up stuck fooling around and making booty calls. Cause deciding to not partake in any of it just won't work sometimes, like with the maze. We didn't want to fuck around, but we had to because it was impossible to just go anywhere like that.
[This is a very eye-opening conversation to Kinjou, and not just because this is a completely different outlook on sex than he has, but it also is a different take on Arakita. Maybe it really is a bit better to make those sorts of connections with people without getting too close. It's to avoid getting hurt, right? In case things become too personal.
If that's the way Arakita wishes to do things then far be it from Kinjou to tell him he has to change his way of thinking. It's not like he's the be all/end all on how sex needs to be done. He only knows about as much as he's done which has... only been a little over a month's worth of experience.
Does Arakita know more than him? He doesn't know. But he has his own opinion, and if that's how he'd rather do things, then he'll let him.]
[It makes sense to Arakita is how he'd argue it. Why burn the energy getting emotional about sex if more than half of his 'partners' are going to be just looking to get off too? Still, the question throws him off-guard before he grins a bit on his end of the line, almost wanting to chuckle - aren't they the same age, how could he have never heard that term before?]
What, seriously? Basically just calling someone to go fuck.
[Because he's a sheltered delicate nerd that sews snake patches onto his jersey.]
Ah. [He had no idea there was a term for that. It's kind of crude, but then... it's for sex. So it figures that that'd be used to get the point across clearly.]
Then if that is what you intend to do, at least be careful with who you call. [Don't make bad decisions, don't get hurt and all that. But it does make him think of something.]
If you must make one, I don't mind receiving it from you. A booty call.
[The perk to being from the #thugglyfe for nearly a year before he got his shit together. He was going to make the simple yeah yeah, I'll be fine, but then Kinjou offers to be called sometime and Arakita feels his face heat up all over again.]
A-Aa? Alright, I'll. Keep that in mind. [Fuck, he stuttered again didn't he. You didn't hear anything, Kinjou.]
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on 2016-03-15 07:56 am (UTC)No, it's fine, I just wasn't expecting to speak to you about. That. [He barely managed to tell Toudou about it and honestly he hadn't even given him any details. Kinjou hadn't technically even told him, since Toudou had stopped the conversation they'd had upon meeting from getting very far.]
But yes, Makishima and I have been intimate. For the reason you have expressed. [Makishima essentially promised his virginity to him, and Kinjou the same. But Arakita probably doesn't need to know that sort of detail.]
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on 2016-03-15 08:22 am (UTC)Really good reason ... Fuck, I'm going to have to talk to Toudou about that sort of thing too, huh. He's got "standards" but at least a familiar face would be .. best. Right? Not in Arakita's case, but normal people preferred someone they knew well.]
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on 2016-03-15 08:40 am (UTC)He's not sure if he can blame him or not.]
That's a decision that you'll have to make on your own. I don't know Toudou as well as you do, obviously, but I think it would at least be a good idea to let him know that if a sexual situation ever arises that you'll both be able to make a decision without worrying too much over the repercussions. [Like how he's currently not quite sure what having sex with Makishima means for their friendship/relationship. Kinjou's not very knowledgeable of the term "fuck-buddy".]
It isn't solely about familiarity. Sex is a very personal matter and can make you feel vulnerable. There is no reason to feel that way with someone you trust.
holy shit i see i fucked up my html up there IM SORRY
on 2016-03-15 07:56 pm (UTC)Right, yeah. Set ground rules or shit, like no kissing or. Whatever would irritate him later. [Friends with benefits isn't a strange thought to him, it's just Toudou. Grumbling a little under his breath without actually saying anything, Arakita knows it's just something to talk about, like Kinjou said. Ughhh..]
I don't know, sex with people I don't know sounds easier honestly. I don't have to think about fucking up a relationship if there isn't one in the first place, you know?
THAT'S WHAT YOU GET FOR NOT GOING TO BED
on 2016-03-15 10:18 pm (UTC)[That is his honest opinion, regardless of whether Arakita is talking solely about Toudou. Now the rest, while he completely understands, doesn't quite sit well with him.]
Your explanation makes sense, but isn't it a bit sad to sleep with people you have no connection to? It makes the act feel empty... that's just my own opinion though. [No shit, Kinjou.]
I would feel more comfortable at least knowing someone so they don't feel as if I am only using them just to... get off? [Is that how they say it?] Usually that sort of act is reserved for masturbation.
IM NOT SORRY FOR NOT GOING TO BED THOUGH
on 2016-03-15 10:24 pm (UTC)[Whether Kinjou agrees or disagrees isn't really Arakita's concern, but explaining it feels necessary; and whether it's about Toudou or not still applies. As far as he's thinking, it is just mutual masturbation - why get feelings if someone else is using him just for that too?]
Shit getting tangled like that just doesn't appeal to me. I don't want relationships with it if I'm going to end up stuck fooling around and making booty calls. Cause deciding to not partake in any of it just won't work sometimes, like with the maze. We didn't want to fuck around, but we had to because it was impossible to just go anywhere like that.
1/2 bans you from late tagging
on 2016-03-15 11:46 pm (UTC)If that's the way Arakita wishes to do things then far be it from Kinjou to tell him he has to change his way of thinking. It's not like he's the be all/end all on how sex needs to be done. He only knows about as much as he's done which has... only been a little over a month's worth of experience.
Does Arakita know more than him? He doesn't know. But he has his own opinion, and if that's how he'd rather do things, then he'll let him.]
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on 2016-03-15 11:46 pm (UTC)What is a "booty call"?
u cant ban me u can only not tag me... which i'll cry about.
on 2016-03-16 12:01 am (UTC)What, seriously? Basically just calling someone to go fuck.
i would also cry. but maybe it'd be worth it to make you cry
on 2016-03-16 12:21 am (UTC)Ah. [He had no idea there was a term for that. It's kind of crude, but then... it's for sex. So it figures that that'd be used to get the point across clearly.]
Then if that is what you intend to do, at least be careful with who you call. [Don't make bad decisions, don't get hurt and all that. But it does make him think of something.]
If you must make one, I don't mind receiving it from you. A booty call.
dont be hatin like that ;a; i cry easy
on 2016-03-16 02:02 am (UTC)A-Aa? Alright, I'll. Keep that in mind. [Fuck, he stuttered again didn't he. You didn't hear anything, Kinjou.]